Lyndon City Council
Unforeseen sewer repairs prompt
scrutiny of engineering firm


Wayne White

Managing Editor

LYNDON—As Lyndon’s sewer renovation project proceeds, workers continue to find surprises underground. While the project is relying on five-year-old video of the sewer lines, last week the Lyndon City Council questioned the project engineer’s accuracy in recommending points of repair.

Andy Giles, foreman for K.C. Construction, Inc., the company conducting the work, had previously reported to the council that a map provided by the project’s engineer, Kirkham Michael, Inc., did not always coincide with the engineer’s recommended repairs.

Giles told the council Sept. 15 that a new discrepancy had been found on Jefferson Street – the recommended repair called for two 20-foot repairs, but the work crew found a length of deteriorated pipe under the street.

“There’s 200 feet there that’s not good,” Giles said.

Council members later determined the difference in repairing two 20-foot points and the estimated 200 to 400 feet of line would be about $17,000.

“I don’t want to directly point my finger at Kirkham Michael,” Lyndon Mayor Bruce Williams said, “because some of that could have happened -– it’s been five years since they say they videotaped.”

Giles said he had reviewed a photo log of the repairs, and found that the line was deteriorated when the video inspection was done five years ago.

“Why was there that limited amount of point repairs if it was in that bad of shape five years ago, whenever they cameraed it the first time?” asked Lyndon City Councilman Doug Watson.

Williams questioned Lyndon City Administrator Larry Thurston about whether the engineering firm had been notified of the discrepancy. “What’s Kirkham Michael say?” Williams asked.

Thurston said he had not been in contact with the firm.

“I can ask for a change order, and in that manner get their reaction,” Thurston said. He said the city, the engineering firm and Kansas Department of Health and Environment must approve all change orders. Kirkham Michael had been notified of all previous change orders in the same manner, he said.

“I would have hoped Kirkham Michael would have revisited that,” Williams said.

Williams noted the company was also performing inspection services on the project. He questioned how much had been paid to Kirkham Michael for inspection fees; Thurston replied that $4,000 or 10 percent of the fees had been paid.

“Let’s not pay them any more until this thing gets further along and we can see we’re getting our money’s worth out of them,” Williams said.

Williams said he believed the company should be more involved in making decisions regarding the change orders.

“They are our consulting engineer on this project,” he said.

Watson and Lyndon City Councilwoman Janet Stout-Walford suggested the company should be contacted regarding the discrepancies.

“On this one specifically, ask them to justify why they said two point repairs,” Stout-Walford said.

She recommended Thurston document all details of the project changes.

Lyndon City Councilman Vince Miller responded, “I understand holding their feet to the fire over these major oversights, but what do we think we’re going to get out of it? It’s obvious they haven’t done the best job. Do we really want them in here mucking it up more than it already is?”

“It’s very difficult for us to make engineering decisions, and that’s what we hired them to do, make engineering decisions,” Williams said.

Miller questioned Kirkham Michael’s further involvement with the project. “I’m not real comfortable … because they’ve made bad decisions in the past, I don’t want any more suggestions from them,” Miller said. “I don’t want their solutions to the problems … because they tend to overlook big problems and call it minor.”

Thurston said that although the company was providing inspection services for the sewer project, “Maybe I’ve been a little remiss of where to put Kirkham Michael in this picture.”

Referring to the city’s plan to reroute a main sewer line that runs under the Osage County Courthouse, “We went away from Kirkham Michael to get recommendation on the courthouse,” he said.

When asked by Williams why the city did not use the same firm for engineering that line, Thurston said, “I thought that was the direction I was supposed to go. I thought we weren’t supposed to exactly expand Kirkham Michael’s services.”

The three council members present at the meeting agreed the council had provided that direction.

“If it was not for spending a whole bunch of money with B&G (the company providing recommendations on the courthouse sewer line), I’m not so sure we wouldn’t be better off – we can change inspectors at any point we feel like we need to,” Williams said.

Although Thurston said BG Consultants is the city’s “on-call” engineer, changing engineers mid-project could be “time consuming.”

“I feel like we could have got a quicker answer from Kirkham Michael on this courthouse reroute,” Thurston said.

During the discussion, Thurston also informed the council that BG is progressing on a hydraulic review for the realignment of the sewer main around the courthouse. He said a crew will measure elevations and pipe lengths to develop recommendations regarding that portion of the project.

Thurston pointed out that some of the sewer repairs have required less materials and labor than recommended by Kirkham Michael, allowing the work crew to “swap horses” and allowing the project’s budget to remain balanced.

“There’s more important feet unknown out there,” he said.

The council took no action regarding Kirkham Michael, but agreed with Stout-Walford’s suggestion, “to keep a record of why we have to keep changing things in their original plan.”

“If we do find it’s costly enough to go and hold them accountable,” she said, “if we have to take action against them, at least we got everything documented.”

Although the council had previously directed Thurston to approve change orders as he deems necessary, “If you run across a $17,000 change order, let us know,” Watson told him.

Thurston is also to provide detailed financial information to the council as the project continues.

Giles reported the project was about half completed, with most of the point repairs to be done within two weeks. He said his company would be videotaping the remaining repairs soon, preceding pipe relining that is the second half of the project.

The council council also approved alcohol at the community building and concerns with the alleway behind M&M Surplus.